Joe Rogan and his fascination with technology has captivated his audience as he frequently hosts guests who are experts in cutting-edge domains like AI. As such, in a recent episode of the JRE (Joe Rogan Experience) podcast, fans were treated to an enlightening conversation with Aza Raskin and Tristan Harris.
Harris and Raskin are co-founders of the Center for Humane Technology, a non-profit organization that aims to ensure that technology isn’t used to impact human society negatively. Therefore, during the conversation, Harris explained to Rogan how AI models like GPT–4 work and are developed. He even used pop icon Taylor Swift as an example to simplify his explanation!
Tristan Harris reveals to Joe Rogan how AI models work
ADVERTISEMENT
Article continues below this ad
The JRE episode no. 2076 featured a conversation with guests, Aza Raskin and Tristan Harris. Both individuals are renowned for their work towards the ethical development of technology like AI models. The conversation touched upon how AI proliferation and its access to the public can be dangerous in a multitude of ways.
As Harris explained to Joe Rogan, Facebook’s release of AI models follows an open approach, likened to sharing a Taylor Swift song on Napster. Once these AI models are out, they’re irreversible, much like a released song.
According to Harris, “It’s sort of like releasing a Taylor Swift song on Napster. Once you put that AI model out there, it can never be brought back right, like imagine the music company saying, like, I don’t want that Taylor Swift song going out there.”
He also explained that an AI model, such as GPT-4, involves a substantial investment—around a hundred million dollars for training—resulting in a massive file resembling a brain in an MP3.
Drawing a parallel to the past, he revealed, “Remember, MP3 files back in the day, if you double-clicked and open an MP3 file in a text editor, what did you see, like gibberish, but you know that model file, if you load it up in an MP3, sorry, if you load the MP3 into an MP3 player instead of gobbledygook, you get Taylor Swift’s song.”
In essence, the analogy emphasizes the irreversible nature of releasing AI models, stressing the distinction from open-source code and portraying the complexity hidden within these massive files. The conversation implies that AI models should only be released with checks and balances that will protect the general public from their consequences.
However, during his appearance on the JRE, OpenAI CEO, Sam Altman, revealed what his visions are for the future of AI and humans!
OpenAI CEO revealed what the future could look like with AI
During the JRE episode no. 2044, Sam Altman discussed the possibility of reading thoughts with external devices, utilizing a neural interface combined with advanced AI models like GPT-5 or 6. He illustrated the concept by suggesting that words, like “soup,” could be displayed in users’ field of vision, forming a valuable communication tool!
While OpenAI explores neural devices, Elon Musk’s Neuralink is also actively developing similar technology. However, ethical concerns have arisen about the usage of such devices, echoing sentiments put forth by Harris and Raskin in their conversation with Joe Rogan.
ADVERTISEMENT
Article continues below this ad
Altman also acknowledged that society is already progressing towards a symbiotic relationship with technology. Comparing it to smartphone dependency, he suggested, “Like if you take away someone’s phone and they have to go function in the world today, they’re at a disadvantage relative to everybody else”
As the general public traverses this technological frontier, the cautionary notes from Joe Rogan and Harris’s conversation indicate the need to explore the nuanced applications and uses of AI.
Read More: $120 Million Worth Joe Rogan Reveals the Secret Behind His Success
ADVERTISEMENT
Article continues below this ad
Do you think AI models should be regulated by the government to prevent their use for dangerous purposes by the public? Why or why not? Share your thoughts in the comments below!
Watch This Story: Alex Pereira Reveals Why He Got ‘Stone Face’ As His ‘Child’
